Leopard Wrasse Primer
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frankyrivera
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Not 100% sure but sold to me as male
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Looks okay to me; just a touch on the thin side but not to the point where I'd expect immanent death.
Female. Note the pattern on the anal fin; males have stripes, not dashed lines. It might be beginning to transition though.
frankyrivera
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Might have been the angle too I'll take another pic lol
frankyrivera
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Thanks hunter for the gender id
justinky
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Apologies for the dodgy pictures ....
I recently lost a male Bipartitus that was in my main display. Although eating well, he got progressively thinner and thinner before just not appearing one day. Although I treated him with prazipro, I suspect intestinal worms.
Anyhow, on the heels of that experience I have decided to put my remaining wrasses into a secondary tank, without aggressive tankmates, where I can hopefully keep them feeding and plump. That tank, a 90 pictured above, contains a pair of female vermiculate wrasses, a black leopard and a potters - along with a flasher, possum and pair of clowns. I'd like to add a meleagris pair and perhaps a choati down the road.
I recently lost a male Bipartitus that was in my main display. Although eating well, he got progressively thinner and thinner before just not appearing one day. Although I treated him with prazipro, I suspect intestinal worms.
Anyhow, on the heels of that experience I have decided to put my remaining wrasses into a secondary tank, without aggressive tankmates, where I can hopefully keep them feeding and plump. That tank, a 90 pictured above, contains a pair of female vermiculate wrasses, a black leopard and a potters - along with a flasher, possum and pair of clowns. I'd like to add a meleagris pair and perhaps a choati down the road.
jgalen0025
Member
why hasnt there been any leopard wrasses on DD for atleast a few months.
r-balljunkie
Registered Reefer
Perpaps seasonal.
i havent seen many juevenilles out lately.
3-4 months ago, a lot of little ones getting rolled around in the surge.....the ones that werent eaten have dropped down the reef a bit and gotten bigger.
Wrasse finding tupperware of sand?
Wrasse finding tupperware of sand?
Hi,
So I just bought an ornate leopard wrasse on Friday, and I'm not going to lie, it was a rather uneducated decision. Usually I research everything before I buy it, but I just really liked how it looked and made a decision to buy one. The person at the LFS said that they were eating frozen food, and that getting them to eat is the only reason they're deemed "expert level" but since they were already eating frozen food so I figured I might have a decent chance.
I have a couple questions regarding this fish.
At home today, I put some brine shrimp + mysis shrimp soaked in selcon, in the afternoon and at night. Both times, the leopard wrasse seemed to eat a couple shrimp, which was a good sign for me. He didn't seem to show any interest at all in the NLS thera a pellet.
I should mention that on Friday after acclimation, I put him into my QT tank, and there was a tupperware of sand right below where I released him. He instantly dove down into the tupperware and buried himself.
I was expecting to not see him for a couple days, but today he came out during the afternoon, around 3 pm, and I fed him a bit.
After I came home, around 8pm, I checked up on him and he seemed to be rather erratic, looked like he was rubbing his face on the barebottom of the tank, and breathing a bit heavily. I added a bit more food, and he seemed to go after it and ate a couple mysis + brine. Went back to rubbing his head after eating.
I'm not sure if this is ich or flukes, both of which can cause this type of behavior. I'll have to do a bit more research before treatment. I am most likely going to medicate prazipro tomorrow, as I'm leaning towards the fact that it might be flukes.
Any ideas on how to be certain if it's ich or flukes? or was he just stressed that might cause this behavior? was it his reflection on the bare bottom that might be causing this behavior?
Before I left, he was just swimming around the bottom of the tank looking at his reflection but not scratching/rubbing his head. That was only after I got home that he started that.
Secondly, Although when I first put him into the tank he dove into the tupperware of sand, tonight, when I turned/dimmed the lights, instead of going into the sand, he just found a corner of the tank, and seemed to "settle in" or go to sleep like that.
I was wondering, would it be hard for them to find a tupperware of sand? It's pretty big, and he already slept in there once, so he should know that there's sand in the tupperware? it seems like he was just avoiding the sand, and just distracted/preoccupied with his reflection/rubbing his head on the bare bottom, and didn't pay any attention to the sand in the tupperware. Even when it was time for him to sleep.
Should I be concerned about him not finding the sand? or is this something that after a few days he should figure out that there's sand in the tupperware? or should I tip the tupperware over so that the top/opening of the tupperware is flush with the barebottom? like stand it up vertically so the opening of the tupperware is facing the side of the tank, rather than the top, if that makes sense.
Any advice/info would be great, I'm just trying to learn as much as possible, I really like this fish.
Cheers.
Wrasse finding tupperware of sand?
Hi,
So I just bought an ornate leopard wrasse on Friday, and I'm not going to lie, it was a rather uneducated decision. Usually I research everything before I buy it, but I just really liked how it looked and made a decision to buy one. The person at the LFS said that they were eating frozen food, and that getting them to eat is the only reason they're deemed "expert level" but since they were already eating frozen food so I figured I might have a decent chance.
I have a couple questions regarding this fish.
At home today, I put some brine shrimp + mysis shrimp soaked in selcon, in the afternoon and at night. Both times, the leopard wrasse seemed to eat a couple shrimp, which was a good sign for me. He didn't seem to show any interest at all in the NLS thera a pellet.
I should mention that on Friday after acclimation, I put him into my QT tank, and there was a tupperware of sand right below where I released him. He instantly dove down into the tupperware and buried himself.
I was expecting to not see him for a couple days, but today he came out during the afternoon, around 3 pm, and I fed him a bit.
After I came home, around 8pm, I checked up on him and he seemed to be rather erratic, looked like he was rubbing his face on the barebottom of the tank, and breathing a bit heavily. I added a bit more food, and he seemed to go after it and ate a couple mysis + brine. Went back to rubbing his head after eating.
I'm not sure if this is ich or flukes, both of which can cause this type of behavior. I'll have to do a bit more research before treatment. I am most likely going to medicate prazipro tomorrow, as I'm leaning towards the fact that it might be flukes.
Any ideas on how to be certain if it's ich or flukes? or was he just stressed that might cause this behavior? was it his reflection on the bare bottom that might be causing this behavior?
Before I left, he was just swimming around the bottom of the tank looking at his reflection but not scratching/rubbing his head. That was only after I got home that he started that.
Secondly, Although when I first put him into the tank he dove into the tupperware of sand, tonight, when I turned/dimmed the lights, instead of going into the sand, he just found a corner of the tank, and seemed to "settle in" or go to sleep like that.
I was wondering, would it be hard for them to find a tupperware of sand? It's pretty big, and he already slept in there once, so he should know that there's sand in the tupperware? it seems like he was just avoiding the sand, and just distracted/preoccupied with his reflection/rubbing his head on the bare bottom, and didn't pay any attention to the sand in the tupperware. Even when it was time for him to sleep.
Should I be concerned about him not finding the sand? or is this something that after a few days he should figure out that there's sand in the tupperware? or should I tip the tupperware over so that the top/opening of the tupperware is flush with the barebottom? like stand it up vertically so the opening of the tupperware is facing the side of the tank, rather than the top, if that makes sense.
Any advice/info would be great, I'm just trying to learn as much as possible, I really like this fish.
Cheers.
Holyreefer
Octopus Extreme 300 Skimr
I was also thinking about going bare bottom until I realized I love banana wrasses and wrasse in general. I may end up going with sand and getting fighting conche to help with sand cleaning...man!
HiImSean
Member
So what are the general consensus about QTing leopards? I've been through this thread a few times here and there and seems like most are split about leopards in QT. I have a LFS trying to get some M. ornatus this weekend and I'm considering one or two. I do have a QT setup and running with some pods, a few pieces of LR, and a tupperware of sand. I worry about introducing a parasite into my DT but don't want to stress the wrasse in QT then a move to the DT later on.
I ended up grabbing something a little different from the Avarium this afternoon. It's in QT but I'll post up in a few weeks on ARC.
HiImSean
Member
Naw different genus. The avarium had a special little female hiding out in a tank for the last few months, a Paracheilinus octotaenia. Got her in QT eating pellets. She a little shy but I'm hoping she'll transition into a male. If not oh well it was too good of a deal to pass up.
triggreef
New member
I QT everything. I was just using a established 20g with live rock and a dish of sand. This worked ok. The last one I tried (a black leopard) I QT'd him in an empty established 72g where he spent a couple weeks getting used to food, and I treated him with a product from national fish pharm dot com called Paracide-D which is basically an intestinal dewormer. I have used it on all new fish since I started with it and have had great results with very few casualties since. I never noticed any negative signs after using this med. After a few weeks in the established 72g, I then ran him through tank transfer method as a precautionary treatment to make sure ich did not hitch hike its way into my tank. This was my 5th leopard to go into my tank and I declared myself done.
All 5 are still doing great, but I recently decided to try for a potters which I don't have. I only tried one potters which seemed fine through my 20g qt days, and died 3 days into moving him to a frag tank to grow up a bit as he was much smaller than the other guys. So I'm going to be at it again trying for a potters. My brother also hired me to QT a couple meleagris for him too so I'm doing those at the same time.
Liveaquaria keeps showing them in stock but then not being able to deliver. They should be sending me a shipment of 2 potters and 3 meleagris on Monday if all goes well.
There was 3 potter trio on DD last few days idk if its still there. $300 was a little rich IMO though.
maxpc99
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I recently ordered 5 small female blue star leopards from Live Aquaria. 1 was larger than the other 4. The large female and another came out first. They seemed to be doing really well then the small one disappeared. Another one came out and I found it dead the next day. Then the last 2 came out today while I was home. I looked in the tank and saw the larger one taking runs at something under a rock. When I got closer I realized it was another blue star. It was relentlessly attacking it. I was able to shoo away the aggressor and capture the listless victim. I put her in my fuge for now. When I got back upstairs the wrasse turned its attention to the last remaining one. I turned the lights off, but the room is pretty bright. I added a couple of mirrors and tried to catch either of the wrasses. No go. Couldn't get either. Well, just did some nighttime recon and sure enough my cleaner shrimp was having a feast on the last small blue star.
Have you ever seen it heard of anything like this? I figured there would be some harassment, they would work out a pecking order and everything would be fine. Never
expected to see one torpedoing into the sides of the others and killing them.
A friend if mine mentioned that maybe it was actually a male. Is that possible and would that explain this behavior?
I have to call LA tomorrow as this all happened within the 14 day live fish window.
Thanks for any input. I'm devastated by these losses. They were all eating frozen mysis too.
Edit: some info. 150 gal display tank. I was treating the tank with prazi and had them eating mysis soaked in metro. I did not QT.
Have you ever seen it heard of anything like this? I figured there would be some harassment, they would work out a pecking order and everything would be fine. Never
expected to see one torpedoing into the sides of the others and killing them.
A friend if mine mentioned that maybe it was actually a male. Is that possible and would that explain this behavior?
I have to call LA tomorrow as this all happened within the 14 day live fish window.
Thanks for any input. I'm devastated by these losses. They were all eating frozen mysis too.
Edit: some info. 150 gal display tank. I was treating the tank with prazi and had them eating mysis soaked in metro. I did not QT.
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