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Steve,

Know anything about this guy?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+2124+1431&pcatid=1431

It says here that they'll do groups in larger tanks. Think I could have 3 or 4 in a 75?

I still haven't worked out what I'm putting in this time, but I've always wanted but couldn't find a good schooling fish. I've thought about those white cardinals with the blue eyes whose name escapes me at the moment. They're kind of hard to get. Is this a good alternative?

 

[snorvich]

Steve,

Know anything about this guy?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+2124+1431&pcatid=1431

It says here that they'll do groups in larger tanks. Think I could have 3 or 4 in a 75?

I still haven't worked out what I'm putting in this time, but I've always wanted but couldn't find a good schooling fish. I've thought about those white cardinals with the blue eyes whose name escapes me at the moment. They're kind of hard to get. Is this a good alternative?

They are fair from an aggregation perspective but tend to pair off rather than shoal. For what you are looking for behaviorally, the best I know of in moderate sized aquaria is Apogon Parvulus. See this article for further discussion or this thread on Reef Central. They tend to be difficult shippers but once acclimated are superb. They do best, however, with multiple feedings per day. Absolute best schooling/shoaling fish is Pempheris schomburgki commonly known as glassy sweeper. However very large tanks are required. Hope this is helpful David. The fish you "cannot remember the name of" is long spine cardinal fish which can be found here. This fish also tends to pair up rather than just aggregate.

 

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Thanks man, you're the greatest.

 

[disc1]

As long as I'm on this thread and stocking a tank...

My thought has been to fill the tank full of flowy LPS, lots of euphyllia, and maybe a few sticks and put a bunch of little bitty fish. I was thinking something along the lines of clown goby, neon gobies, those little blue eyed cardinals, a dartfish of some sort, maybe a blenny of some kind and probably a small colorful wrasse.

My wife is really putting it on me to do a BTA and a maroon clown. I love the idea but I've never kept either. I'm not really scared, but I don't know what to stock in a 75 with a maroon. They're mean aren't they? Could I do a big blenny or a jawfish and a larger wrasse like a fairy wrasse with it? Maybe a pygmy angel is in order if I'm careful about my coral choices. Could I have a pair of Maroons in a 75?

 

[mckriesch]

I currently have a 36 gallon bowfront tank. 100 gallon HOB filtratation, heater, regular lighting, wave maker, 35 lbs live rock, 30 pounds sand. The tank has been set up and running for about six months.
Right now:
4 red leg hermit crabs
6 nassarius snails
1 blue neon goby
1 scooter blenny

What i want to add in about 2 or 3 months:
-cleaner crew consisting of blue leg hermit crabs and various snails(what kind of snails do you recommend?)
-dwarf zebra lionfish
-black angler fish

I realize that the goby and blenny would be eaten almost immediately and I would donate them to a friend or lfs before adding the lionfish or angler fish.

Also, in what order should I add these (if possible) into the tank

 

[snorvich]

As long as I'm on this thread and stocking a tank...

My thought has been to fill the tank full of flowy LPS, lots of euphyllia, and maybe a few sticks and put a bunch of little bitty fish. I was thinking something along the lines of clown goby, neon gobies, those little blue eyed cardinals, a dartfish of some sort, maybe a blenny of some kind and probably a small colorful wrasse.

My wife is really putting it on me to do a BTA and a maroon clown. I love the idea but I've never kept either. I'm not really scared, but I don't know what to stock in a 75 with a maroon. They're mean aren't they? Could I do a big blenny or a jawfish and a larger wrasse like a fairy wrasse with it? Maybe a pygmy angel is in order if I'm careful about my coral choices. Could I have a pair of Maroons in a 75?

Gold Stripe Maroon clownfish are gorgeous, no doubt about that. However, once they are bonded and mating, they will want to control about 50 gallons of tank space. And when I say control, I mean no aquarist hands either as they can draw blood. But it is a worthwhile and very interesting tank as long as you are aware that putting most fish with them will be difficult in a 75 gallon tank. Since blennies do not occupy the same ecological niche, you can go that direction with some restrictions. A jawfish (other than blue spot) would work especially if you aquascape your tank to create separation of areas. A flasher wrasse (except the eight line red sea flasher wrasse) would work. I am not as positive about firefish, which are easily intimidated, although a dartfish might work.

 

[snorvich]

I currently have a 36 gallon bowfront tank. 100 gallon HOB filtratation, heater, regular lighting, wave maker, 35 lbs live rock, 30 pounds sand. The tank has been set up and running for about six months.
Right now:
4 red leg hermit crabs
6 nassarius snails
1 blue neon goby
1 scooter blenny

What i want to add in about 2 or 3 months:
-cleaner crew consisting of blue leg hermit crabs and various snails(what kind of snails do you recommend?) I recommend snails or hermit crabs not both
-dwarf zebra lionfish
-black angler fish

I realize that the goby and blenny would be eaten almost immediately and I would donate them to a friend or lfs before adding the lionfish or angler fish. If you are going with a single species tank, which I heartily endorse, I would go with one of the anglers that actively hunt rather than a lionfish which just sits around waiting for the next meal. That would be a very interesting tank.

Also, in what order should I add these (if possible) into the tank

 

[billy mitchell]

tank 800+ ltr 2 powerheads MP40w
live rock course sand
sump 187ltr ..live sand.. macro algae..skimmer magnum 200p return pump octopus 10500ltr/ph
cleanup crew ..3 large turbo's 11 large blueleg hermets
fish wanted
coral beauty
flame angel
2 royal gamma
4 bangi cardinals
4 pajama """
chromas's ...maybe 6
2 ocellaris clowns
2 dartfish fire
2 dartfish purple
long nose hawk fish
yellow tang
purple tang
Mimic tang

is there any other fish you could recommend...will google to see if what you say is ok
here is pic of tank

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[snorvich]

tank 800+ ltr 2 powerheads MP40w
live rock course sand
sump 187ltr ..live sand.. macro algae..skimmer magnum 200p return pump octopus 10500ltr/ph
cleanup crew ..3 large turbo's 11 large blueleg hermets
fish wanted
coral beauty
flame angel
2 royal gamma
4 bangi cardinals only a male plus female tank raised will sustain long term
4 pajama """
chromas's ...maybe 6 only one will survive long term; also be very careful as they are susceptible to uronema marinum
2 ocellaris clowns
2 dartfish fire only one will survive long term
2 dartfish purple
long nose hawk fish not shrimp safe
yellow tang the two zebrasoma tangs must be introduced last and concurrently
purple tang the two zebrasoma tangs must be introduced last and concurrently
Mimic tang

is there any other fish you could recommend...will google to see if what you say is ok if there were a way to measure marine fish compatibility with Google, this thread would not have the activity level it does

 

[billy mitchell]

my post addition
do plan to add a scrubber ...have worked out the size but materials here are hard to find
to buy from Santa Monica is too expensive because of tax laws here ...would have to add 20% and include the freight tax for that too

 

[snorvich]

my post addition
do plan to add a scrubber ...have worked out the size but materials here are hard to find
to buy from Santa Monica is too expensive because of tax laws here ...would have to add 20% and include the freight tax for that too

This thread is only about marine fish compatibility. For questions involving equipment, there are various other forums where your question would get a lot of attention.

 

[Nina51]

thanks for the info, steve. looks like i'm going back to the drawing board.

 

[mckriesch]

Thank you for your help. What angler would you recommend? Right now I am stuck between the black angler and the sargassum as they are a little bit more reasonably priced and I am a college student.
Again, thank you for your help

 

[snorvich]

Thank you for your help. What angler would you recommend? Right now I am stuck between the black angler and the sargassum as they are a little bit more reasonably priced and I am a college student.
Again, thank you for your help

Anglers (frogfish) are classified by the shape of their lure. Use google to look at various sites specializing in frogfish but a pretty good one might be found here. You want ambulatory, hunting frogfish as opposed to ambush predator frogfish. However this thread is only about Marine Fish Compatibility so those questions would be best in our aggressive fish forum.

 

[mckriesch]

Okay, I will seek more info there. Thank you Steve

 

[Jrod4]

58 Gallon mixed reef with SPS, LPS, zoos, a leather, and a RBTA.

Currently just have a peppermint shrimp and a couple tank bred occelaris clowns:

I would like to add:
1 6 Line wrasse
1 coral beauty
1 Banggai Cardinal

 

[claireputput]

reef tank 90g

reef tank 90g

Hi, I am new here and to saltwater as well.
I have only been up and running for just a few weeks. I first bought two damsels then two clowns a couple of weeks later. I then waited a couple of weeks and added a reef cleaner pkg.
I now want to add some mushrooms and three cardinal fish. All perimeters appear good and it appears cycled. 1.025 is my salinity (hope I said this right) and I am adding a kalkwasser this week.
My setup includes an eshopps sump, a skimmer-rated 220g, a wave maker with three hydor, an eshopps overflow box, a phosphate reactor, 150lbs live rock and 4 inches live sand. I also installed an automatic top off and have RO/DI water.

Will I be alright with these additions?

 

[snorvich]

58 Gallon mixed reef with SPS, LPS, zoos, a leather, and a RBTA.

Currently just have a peppermint shrimp and a couple tank bred occelaris clowns:

I would like to add:
1 6 Line wrasse very aggressive
1 coral beauty a slightly larger tank is recommended
1 Banggai Cardinal be sure it is tank bred

 

[snorvich]

Hi, I am new here and to saltwater as well.
I have only been up and running for just a few weeks. I first bought two damsels

Hopefully the damsels were not to cycle the tank. In any case they will limit some tank mates going forward.

then two clowns a couple of weeks later. I then waited a couple of weeks and added a reef cleaner pkg.
I now want to add some mushrooms and three cardinal fish. All perimeters appear good and it appears cycled. 1.025 is my salinity (hope I said this right) and I am adding a kalkwasser this week.
My setup includes an eshopps sump, a skimmer-rated 220g, a wave maker with three hydor, an eshopps overflow box, a phosphate reactor, 150lbs live rock and 4 inches live sand. I also installed an automatic top off and have RO/DI water.

Will I be alright with these additions? yes, but the damsels can be a problem going forward

[welcome]

 

[billy mitchell]

thank you for this valued information and I will go by your recommendations
what would you recommend for schooling fish instead of chromas's
when I mentioned google it was just for information as to size,shape and what the fish looked like
In no way was it to question your information on what you would recommend
as for the additional information with the scrubber it was an add on to my post on what the tank has as far as equiptment