Jebao Cross Flow Pump

[fishbox]

any idea of a release date for these yet

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[MaccaPopEye]

I saw some pictures on the fish street facebook page of what looked like a gyre and also a new controller but no information and no release date.

 

[Klaus Jansen]

If you don't want your product to get ripped, don't build it in China.

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best regards .. Klaus

 

[acabgd]

First photo I've seen

 

[chercm]

still waiting for it to be launched.

 

[gcarroll]

I'm amazed that that is the only picture of that pump. I will bet they will have the strong fight on their hands when they try to sell it.

 

[Ron Reefman]

I'm amazed that that is the only picture of that pump. I will bet they will have the strong fight on their hands when they try to sell it.

Unlikely, the cost of the fight is more than the profit from the pump for Maxspect. Just look at all the effort they put into going after Jebao on the wave maker pumps. And still they sell like hotcakes.

 

[jrp1588]

I will say this is their most blatant copy yet. Their prop pumps look like Tunze, but operate like Ecotech. This seems to be just directly lifted from Maxxspect's design.

 

[karimwassef]

The cross flow blade and fan was patented in 1893 by Paul Mortier in France.

https://www.google.com/patents/US507445

The patent ran out before the last century.

Cross flow, squirrel cage, tangential, tubular designs have been used in industrial and commercial fans, blowers, pumps, compressors and generators for about a century.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_fan

They've been made of plastic for decades.

Connecting one to DC pump and putting it in a fish tank looks obvious. So I don't see an innovation breakthrough here. This is very old and very common technology.

 

[karimwassef]

Using one on either side of a motor is also popular

http://www.cyberskt.com/ac-cross-dual.htm

Maybe they have a patent on quick connect/disconnect of the impellers, or how to increase reliability with a lot of particulates in the water...

Just looking at the videos and description, I haven't identified anything special. Anyone else?

 

[jrp1588]

I don't disagree, most cars have a plastic squirrel cage blower motor after all. I was just saying this is the closest copy they've made yet.

 

[karimwassef]

If you have a microwave, it's in there too. Those are usually DC motors.

 

[Bent]

If you don't want your product to get ripped, don't build it in China.

This x1000.

This is what these companies get for trying to maximize their margins and still sell their crap at a premium price.

If both these companies manufactured this stuff in the states and created jobs for Americans, and paid their share of the taxes for Americans, this would never happen. But nooo, they got to get the cost of the impeller down from 5 bucks a unit to .50 cents a unit and still keep the MSRP as high as feasibly possible.

Karma baby. No sympathy here.

 

[mikeatjac]

This x1000.

This is what these companies get for trying to maximize their margins and still sell their crap at a premium price.

If both these companies manufactured this stuff in the states and created jobs for Americans, and paid their share of the taxes for Americans, this would never happen. But nooo, they got to get the cost of the impeller down from 5 bucks a unit to .50 cents a unit and still keep the MSRP as high as feasibly possible.

Karma baby. No sympathy here.

Today's economy is global so who can produce a product for less wins, I have no issues with that. Pricing is for the most part determined buy what the consumer will pay. The problem with China is they don't respect patents nor have the manufacture regulations we have.

 

[shifty51008]

This x1000.

This is what these companies get for trying to maximize their margins and still sell their crap at a premium price.

If both these companies manufactured this stuff in the states and created jobs for Americans, and paid their share of the taxes for Americans, this would never happen. But nooo, they got to get the cost of the impeller down from 5 bucks a unit to .50 cents a unit and still keep the MSRP as high as feasibly possible.

Karma baby. No sympathy here.

If thats the case then why is tunze pumps copied, everything but the magnet is made in germany.

 

[chris@CoralVue]

Maxspect is a Chinese company.

 

[seamonster124]

Is there vid of the Jebao gyre?

 

[Ron Reefman]

+1000 for what karimwassif said in post #89.

This isn't new technology and copying the 'look' of a pump is the worst thing they do, I don't see a big issue. I don't like the really over inflated prices that many Big Brand companies introduce new products with, but that's their business. On the other hand, if they get competition from low end manufacturers from anywhere, that's what they opened themselves up to. If the Maxspec gyre were priced at $125 instead of $225 maybe the copycats wouldn't try and rush in?

 

[dmatt56]

Right there with you Ron

 

[seamonster124]

+1000 for what karimwassif said in post #89.

I don't like the really over inflated prices that many Big Brand companies introduce new products....they get competition from low end manufacturers from anywhere, that's what they opened themselves up to. If the Maxspec gyre were priced at $125 instead of $225 maybe the copycats wouldn't try and rush in?

Exactly! Although retailers are a big part of the reason a pump that moves water around a tank should cost $400. You'd be amazed how high the mark-up is on some of these products.

Jebao's middle man is some guy on ebay trying to make $20 off each pump. The other manufacturer's middle men are dozens of big name corporate websites earning tens of millions a year.